I really haven’t seen much class commentary on firefly and that is a shame. It really is a working class show. Jayne is shown sending money back to a family who can’t afford healthcare. There is a lot of distrust of Simon for his upper class status. There are whole episodes explicitly about upperclass vs. lowerclass lifestyles.
Joss Whedon (via writingquotes)
#I’m reblogging this because it pisses me off and im putting the pissing off part in the tags #THAT IS NOT A PRODUCTIVE OR COOL THING TO SAY #I absolutely loathe the little quotes and things that say ‘unless you ‘have’ to write #you’re not a ‘real’ writer’ #that’s absolutely foolish #because something like that means a certain way to someone who fancies themselves a writer doesn’t mean it applies to everyone#there’s not a specific set of conditions that are required to be called a writer #saying that someone has to have a fully-fledged and intense passion for something to be considered a doer of that or have the title of that #is so silly and degrading to people that might not have the same passion but still enjoy the something #this one especially pisses me off i dont know if it’s real i dont know whatever #but saying that unless you ‘have’ to write which in itself is foolish because no one REALLY ‘has’ to write #saying that unless you feel that way that you SHOULDN’T write is a super rude thing #isn’t it Harper Lee who didn’t technically finish another novel after To Kill a Mockingbird? #apparently she didn’t have to write #so she shouldn’t have ever written anything okay #like shit if you are a writer and you really enjoy writing and it gives you a purpose to the point you say that you ‘have’ to write #why in the world would you discourage people to not write based on how their feelings toward it compare to yours #im sorry im not making a brilliant argument here and im not being too concise but hot damn this just makes me upset [source]
So, this is out of context? What Joss was saying is that writing is a really tough, often soul crushing job, with a lot of disappointments and uncertain returns, and that you are probably better off pursuing something else for money security and emotional, mental, and physical health reasons.
Writing is a soul wrenching process that involves people telling you things you worked very hard on totally suck and are worthless. There are a lot of careers that don’t do that to you.
What he was saying isn’t that people who don’t have to write aren’t real writers, or shouldn’t write because they aren’t qualified. What he is saying is that if your brain doesn’t drive you to write regardless (mine, for instance, totally does - so some people actually can’t not write at least as a hobby) Then you might be better off doing something else.
Not that you have to or you are a fake writer, but that you might want to if you don’t like pain and suffering and strife.
He doesn’t understand why people who don’t mentally have to do it are putting themselves through that.
So yeah. Its a warning, not a judgement.
Feminism and Joss Whedon: MISOGYNIST VILLAINS IN THE WHEDONVERSE
I’ve been reading a series of posts about Joss Whedon and feminism and dude, i want to share it here for those who care.
But be warned, like everyone, I DO LOVE Joss and everything he does, BUT some posts are about the PROBLEMATIC in his work, not the good deeds. But i do know the fandom and almost everyone loves Joss but knows he creates troublesome things as well. This one is a “good one” and focuses on the great things.
And THIS TEXT ISNT MINE.
Now that we’ve had a chance to explore some of the women of the Whedonverse, I wanted to talk about some of Joss Whedon’s most memorable misogynist villains. These villains are something which really sets Joss aside from a lot of other people working in television, because he confronts viewers with very real examples of anti-feminist villainy. I can’t think of a lot of other examples of shows in which villains are explicitly misogynist, and in which their misogyny becomes a critical aspect of their characterization and eventual fate.
Good stuff. I’ve been pointing out the prevalence of misogynist villains in the Whedonverse for forever, so it’s nice to read some analysis of it. I have to say that I disagree with the idea that the writers of Dollhouse were the “real villains” because they wiped Sierra’s memories and disempowered her. I think the author of the post is really missing the point of the show there.
This is very clearly written without seeing the second season of Dollhouse which totally does handle that issue with Sierra. I also think, even in season one, it is a bit wrong because while Boyd might handle the punishing, it is on Adelle’s orders. Adelle is an incredibly complex character that this post doesn’t even mention her once. What happened to Sierra is pretty explicitly something that most dollhouse’s might forgive, but Adelle won’t tolerate it.
Adelle, in seaons two, struggles with the fact that she is actually perpetuating this violence and the way it effects her is really interesting. To ignore her role in discussing feminism is, I think short sighted.
Also, I know this post is specifically about the misogynistic villains, I think Whedon’s female villains, who are villains and feminine, but not villains because of their femininity or by means of it (though he has that too, in Saffron) are really interesting to look at too - Darla and Dru, both objectified because of their status as female and perceived as weak before they were turned, take on very powerful roles as villains (Darla’s ending arc is notably a tad problematic, but still in flashbacks she is worth talking about). Glory, Illyria, and Jasmine in their roles as both women and powerful evil gods - we don’t meet any male gods. And then again Adelle and Faith, in their more ambiguous roles.
INT. SCIENCE CLASSROOM - NIGHT
Oz is examining the arrow amidst science paraphernalia. (Swabbing blood off the tip and putting it on a slide. That sounds real sciencey! Did I mention I was an English major?)—
Joss Whedon’s script for Graduation Day Part I (link)
Probably how I would write scripts too.